AMD Discussion

CPU:

• Intel 8th generation processors appear to meet expectations.
• Intel will have difficulty maintaining margins while competing with AMD's prices.
• 7700K may prove more cost effective than the 8700K for single threaded workloads with overclocking.
• Ryzen consumer processor sales are now matching or exceeding Intel's.
• Threadripper out performs similarly priced i9 processors in multi-threaded workloads.
• i9 exceeds Threadripper performance at same core count but costs significantly more.
• Non-i9 X-series have a low number of PCIe lanes and all X-series lack ECC memory support in order to differentiate Xeon line. (All Threadripper have 64 PCIe lanes and support ECC memory).
• Lack of PCIe lanes on 7820X and lower processors means you cannot run dual GPU 16x PCIe.
• Waiting for non "X" Threadripper line which will likely provide similar capability at a slightly lower price. (Rumor $849 for 1950 vs $999 for 1950X).
• Overall positive response to Threadripper and negative response to i9.
• $850 price point for 1950 would give a gross margin of around $720 despite costing $850 less than equal core count i9.
• Processors like the i5 7640X illustrate Intel's attempt to maintain margins.
• i9 TIM and RAID keys also illustrate this point.
• Standalone Zen APU should arrive at some point soon.
• Standalone Epyc possibly later this year.
• i9 negatively impacts highly profitable Xeon line while Xeon line negatively impacts i9 performance.
• Zen has no yield issues and its modular design makes it very cost effective at the expense of performance.
• Ryzen mobile later this year.
• Ryzen Pro next year.
• Xbox One X.

GPU: Nvidia clearly ahead of AMD.

• Nvidia's Volta consumer line not expected until 2018.
• Nvidia responded to Vega with a Titan XP software update improving performance by 3x in some situations. (Bad for both Nvidia and AMD).
• Titan XP now outperforms Vega Frontier Edition in many of the compute tasks in which it once lagged.
• RX Vega performs about as well as expected and has some compute advantages over Nvidia.
• RX Vega performs well enough to be a sensible purchase for users of Freesync monitors.
• Rumors that AMD raised RX Vega price by $100 shortly before release (Vega 56 from $299 to $399).
• Complaints about misleading Vega pricing. Some lack substance whereas others have merit. Complaints about AMD's marketing.
• Vega appears good enough to maintain confidence in Navi.
• APU with Vega Mobile at some point.
• RX Vega currently being tested for Ethereum mining. Both good and bad for AMD if Vega proves efficient.

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