Friday, 28 April 2017

Low Frame Issues, I really need help and this is beginning to become disheartening.

Hi all, first off, I did not see any rules against making a post like this. If it does not belong here and the mods need to remove it, please link me to another area for help (r/techsupport and blizzard support chat have done nothing for me)

My name is f3ltup and I have been playing overwatch since open beta. I have also been playing fps' all my life and have never been great at them, so I take great pride that I am a peak of 4.2k SR and are among some of the best players. This is why this is slowly starting to dishearten me.

Before playing competitively, I just never messed with any video settings. After I joined a team and started playing more, I followed this guide to optimize my game and try to get the highest FPS possible, I used high textures, and medium anti aliasing as the only exceptions from that guide. I found it odd that in team fights my machine could dip towards 115 but I didn't know how well Overwatch was optimized and I didn't make a big deal out of it. For reference, my machine is here:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor Purchased For $324.00
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler Purchased For $30.00
Motherboard MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard Purchased For $97.70
Memory G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $107.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Mushkin ECO2 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $65.00
Storage Western Digital Blue 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $125.00
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $24.99
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card Purchased For $720.00
Case Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case Purchased For $61.09
Power Supply EVGA 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $64.99
Optical Drive LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer Purchased For $15.00
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit Purchased For $30.00
Monitor Samsung T24A350 24.0" 1920x1080 Monitor Purchased For $130.00
Monitor Dell P170S 17.0" 1280x1024 60Hz Monitor Purchased For $0.00
Monitor Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor Purchased For $450.00
Keyboard Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition Wired Gaming Keyboard Purchased For $70.00
Mouse Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse Purchased For $45.00
Headphones Razer ManO'War 7.1 Channel Headset Purchased For $180.00
Other Xbox 360 Controller (Wireless) Purchased For $30.00
Other Xbox 360 C​ontroller ​(Wireless) Purchased For $30.00
Other Wireless Xbox 360 Controller PC Adapter Purchased For $10.00
Other Razer Crosswoven Mousepad Purchased For $5.00
Other Spectre X350 32" 1080p 60 Hz TV Purchased For $110.00
Other Steam Controller Purchased For $50.00
Other Steam Link Purchased For $50.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2825.65
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-27 11:44 EDT-0400

After watching some pro streamers, I realized it was strange that a lot of them running the same or worse cpu's than me, and 1070's and would be 200 frames+ almost all the time. I did not find a huge difference between 144 Fps and 120. But I really was looking into streaming. When I would start streaming, it would start to become noticeable. I would start out around 160 fps, but after an hour or two I would be dipping towards 80, possibly lower. This happened the same way while not streaming but at a slight boost to fps, I would usually never dip below 100. Despite there being a change, me streaming on ultra low obs settings only used 2% of cpu power, and made me feel strange that there was such a difference. I should state at this point I was playing on 1080p downscaled 75% and everything on as low as possible.

Rewind to about last week, and I have stopped streaming while playing overwatch. Frames were getting very bad. Now, without streaming, I would be getting down to 70 FPS after 2-3 hours of playtime, and I would like to vocalize that it was not a temp problem. My temps are always very cool and that has not been an issue ever, even though I monitor them while playing. The only way to go back to my 125 FPS was to stop playing for about 4 hours or so, which I scrim and do tournaments for nearly 25 hours a week before comp, so that isn't really an option all the time.

This issue was not getting better, so I turned to blizzard support 2 days ago. I talked with one person who gave me a few solutions, and after one of them I had to restart my PC, so we had to say goodbye. The only thing that really helped was uninstalling geforce experience, but it really only boosted like 10 frames. That night, after a long day of scrims and comp, i was dipping below 70 without streaming. I go back into blizzard support chat and i get one of the best support people I've ever talked with, she was super helpful and wasn't using her macros much to talk with me. She tried as hard as possible but I really couldn't end up doing anything. Between the 2 chats, these are a few things I tried.

*Uninstalling geforce experience
*Uninstalling MSI gaming app
*2 things in the run menu that the blizzard guy told me to do, i think it had to do with third party apps interfering with the game, but either way this helped nothing.
*Checking temps (they were fine)
*running the game with no background apps whatsover
*checking all performance tabs in task manager (nothing above 50-60 :/ )

Just to say a few things that I know aren't 100% perfect with my pc, just to see if any of these might be the issue would be that I have a tad bit of gpu sag, but this problem only effects OW so I do not believe that is the problem, I havent dusted my pc in a few months, but if I am correct that would only cuase a temp issue, and that isn't the issue.

So either way, last night after getting off the support chat, I sorta was fed up. I felt like I was weighing my team down, and for the wallruns and escapes I do as lucio, the frame drops were hurting my performance. So I reinstalled windows. This morning after booting up overwatch, I immediately panicked because I was getting 40-60 FPS, and 25 in teamfights. I quickly realized that I hadn't installed my GPU driver, so I did that and it seemed to work the same as normal, with a little performance drop. I would start around 150 FPS in pregame instead of 180, and another weird thing was that in the menu I wouldn't be pushing 300 fps, and it would sometimes rapidly drop to about 40 while navigating certain parts of the menu. Which was odd, but oh well, i was back to about 110 in game and teamfights. So i launch into a comp game, get to halftime, and then alt tab to respond to a discord msg. I click back in and I am back to getting about 60 fps, and maintain that until i restart the client, again, dipping to almost 25 during teamfights.

Also, after reinstalling windows my computer is running quite badly. Input lag is pretty heavy on windows and it seems to just be running slower.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, if you have any insight at all please don't hesitate to comment.



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